A little over a year ago, we adopted a pure bred collie who was 5 years old at that time, named Sage. We adopted her from a Collie Rescue after fostering her for a couple of weeks. She seemed like a pretty good dog, she didn’t have any accidents in the house or chew things, which was nice.
But, as it turns out, chewing is not the worst problem a dog can have

She hasn’t bonded with anyone here. She is totally indifferent to us – she has NO affection or connection at all to me or any of the kids or anyone else. When the kids pet her, she just stands there *tolerating* it and looking very upset that they are bugging her. When they try to talk to her or play with her, she ignores them pointedly.
She is, however, the most annoying dog in the UNIVERSE when we have guests over – she HAS to be crated or put outside because she will jump and claw on visitors non-stop – ANYONE who comes in the door. And I can’t seem to break her from it [and I’m a pretty good dog trainer, believe it or not]. It is really obsessive/neurotic behavior.
This stupid collie is also a “door bolter” – she runs away any time a door opens [will knock me down to push me out of her way, and totally trample the children]. I *hate* this – she refuses to come to us when we try to go get her and instead runs the neighborhood JUMPING on people. Jumping on people is one of her signature bad habits. We live in a *very* sweet neighborhood with a lot of elderly retired people who walk the neighborhood a lot. And I am SO scared she is going to jump on one of them and really hurt them.
So, at this point, she stays in the back yard all day and only comes in at night, when the children are in bed and I know the front door is not going to be opened. She was purchased as an inside dog, and an inside dog is what I wanted – but she is *impossible* to keep in the house during the day because of her running away habit.
As it is, she does anything she can to escape from the back yard too. *sigh* I am sick of my pregnant self having to chase this dog down the street – leaving my children unattended while I run around the whole neighborhood trying to catch this stupid dog before she kills one of my neighbors or gets picked up by animal control. I am also worried one of my children is going to be hit by a car and killed because they ALWAYS try to chase her themselves, even after I’ve told them time and again they are not allowed to do it. They panic and think she’ll be gone forever if they don’t run after her [if only… *sigh*]
In addition, the dog just has a nasty attitude. I had read that collies are “stubborn” and boy, they weren’t kidding. I do obedience training with both of our dogs and she KNOWS all the commands, she just doesn’t want to do what she is told.
For instance, I say “Down” and she will stare at me balefully and then finally, excruciatingly slowly, she will lower herself down and then glare at me the whole time. [Meanwhile our other dog hits the floor immediately – what a good boy!].
She is also deathly afraid of thunder and lightening and acts like a total neurotic nutcase whenever there is a storm around – no matter how much you pet her or comfort her, she’s going insane. It drives ME insane.
Oh, and then she decided she’d start waking me up several times a night… just because. Now we leave the baby gate up at the bottom of the stairs so she can’t come upstairs.
She likes to deliberately lie in doorways and other very conspicuous places where you can’t get by and she refuses to move when you tell her to – you are forced to either walk over her [which is difficult since she’s a big dog] or try to get around her… it makes me nuts.
And then there is the fact that she’s SNEAKY. I hate a sneaky person and I hate a sneaky animal. She is *very* intelligent. She *knows* what the rules are. She just waits till I’m not around to *catch* her and THEN she breaks the rules. For instance, tearing all the trash out and scattering it all over the house – she will ONLY do this after we are all asleep – all day long she could be sitting 2 inches from that trash can and won’t touch it – but the second the rotten thing is ALONE, she tears it up and scatters it.
I can handle a dog that just doesn’t *know* any better, and I can understand a dog who is just kinda stupid… I’ve had both kinds. But I *despise* this dog who is perfectly intelligent and *knows* what she should and shouldn’t do, and just chooses to be a sneaky brat with a bad attitude.
Ugh.
I wish we’d never adopted this awful dog. All she does is lie around. She doesn’t *like* any of us – she could care less if we were murdered 3 feet in front of her face. She is really, truly just a waste of dog food.
Now, on the other hand, we have our lab/husky mix – the boy dog, Tyr. We adopted him last August and he was 2 years old at that time. He had *serious* problems when we got him – chewing, pooping and peeing in the house, jumping up… you name it, he had it.
Within 6 weeks I had him trained and he has never had a potty accident since, he has stopped chewing obsessively [with just a couple of mishaps over the last 8 months], he doesn’t jump – he is EXCELLENT with his obedience commands.

He *adores* our whole family and follows the kids around constantly – he just loves them to pieces. If you tell him not to do something, he doesn’t do it [whether you are looking or not]. If he does something wrong [like kill a chicken] it is only because he didn’t *understand* that it was wrong – he can be taught and once he is taught he does not make the same mistake twice. He has a GREAT attitude, he is protective of his family but not mean, he WANTS to be a good boy – you can’t beat a dog like that.
I adore him. I’m so glad we adopted him.
He still has problems – he will run away [the collie taught him how] and he will try to escape. I get frustrated by that, and because of that he, too, spends most of the daytime hours in the back yard where no door gets opened. But that is about his only issue, and I can live with that because he is such a lovable dog otherwise.
But that Collie … ugh. I rue the day we adopted that useless beast!
11 comments:
I don't think anyone would blame you if the dog decided to take...an extended vacation...and you didn't mind so much. I'll bet she wouldn't be missed. She sounds like a very big, very hairy CAT!
Kelly, we had a bearded collie we adopted from a rescue, and she behaved the EXACT same way. I mean, we could have written that post! She was sneaky; she was destructive; she didn't want us touching her, and really, she didn't want to see anyone. UGH. I hate to say it, but after having our lives ruled by this dog, I was so glad when we gave her back to a collie rescue. She was good with older people, so I hope she found someone who could put up with her. I'd take her back--you have too much going on, and your Tyr sounds great.
I would get rid of her, too! It sounds mean but I had a dog that I really hated a while back, too. He wasn't like your collie---he was just plain big and dumb and destructive and I couldn't handle it. So we gave him away to someone who could love him because I was never ever going to.
I have fantasized about giving her back, I won't lie. I even mentioned it to the kids but they were horrified [apparently they have so much love to share that even a dog that pretty much hates them is well loved :( ].
I know the Rescues are overwhelmed right now with owner turn ins because of the economy too, and we really CAN afford to keep her [though I hate every penny I spend feeing her to be honest!]. I'd feel guilty about adding to the burden of the Rescues right now...
Nobody else is going to love her I don't think - I don't think she's capable of bonding to humans for whatever reason [maybe her first home was bad and ruined her? Who knows!].
I've even considered just having her put down [which seems more humane to me than the pound], but there is no way I could ever do that.
But then, thinking about having to deal with her for 5 or 8 more years makes my head hurt too!
Anyway, thanks for the commiseration ladies! MGH, how interesting that you had such a similar experience - I wonder if this is common with older rescue dogs?
Oh, and Laura - LOL! You are SO right about her being a big overgrown cat - that is *exactly* how she acts, my husband even made that comment.
While I like cats, I didn't particularly *want* a 60 lb cat LOL!
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We adopted a mutt from the shelter. He is very affectionate, but also super high energy and dominate. The articles on the Leerburg site were a wonderful help in getting him under control. Now we're training him to pull a wagon.
We had a sheltie when I was growing up, and she really was a good dog - but she had the act of passive/aggressive behavior pinned. I would close her in my room when I left the house and every time I returned, she would've shredded everything she could get hold of. She also snuck on my bed when I would sleep at night TO PEE ON IT. She really, really was a good girl, though ;).
Kelly, how terrible! The thing that makes dogs so great is that they provide unconditional "love" and affection. I can't imagine having a dog that was indifferent to me and the family. I hope you find some way to resolve this problem.
About the scared of storms thing, you could try giving her some Valerian Root (just one to start). My sis-in-law had a spaz of a dog that freaked out with storms and giving her one (or two when she was really bad) really calmed her down and it doesn't hurt them at all.
As far as the bolting, every time we've had that problem it's because of lack of exercise. I'm sure you know that collies tend to be smart but easily bored!
Your other dog sounds like such a sweetie; it's too bad he doesn't rub off on her instead of the other way around.
If you really can't stand the dog anymore, I wouldn't feel bad about giving her away or back to rescue.
You're pregnant and homeschooling and you don't need that extra stress on the back burner!
Entropy, I had read this about the door bolting being an exercise deficit problem and maybe it is, but its her own darn fault LOL!
Our lab boy will chase balls with the kids for hours on end, run with them, follow them everywhere, he gets run ragged all day long LOL! The stupid collie - no way. She won't do anything but lay around [she's the laziest dog I ever met too! Another pet peeve!].
For the first 6 months we had her I took her for long walks religiously too with the kids, then our lives went crazy last fall and I stopped - but she was a door bolter from day one and I never saw any difference if I exercised her lazy self or not LOL!
I'm stuck though - after talking to the kids about it, they would be *devastated* if I got rid of her. Which is just weird since she doesn't even like them... but, I don't want to break their little hearts so I'm stuck with the beast LOL!
I don't know why I didn't see this post before, lol. I have a very similar problem with our dog King. He doesn't like any of us, maybe Hubby, he just tolerates us. He LOVES my mother in law though, which is hysterical because she doesn't really care for him. He is huge too, like 100 lbs. He prefers the back yard during the day, I think because he doesn't have to deal with the kids all that much. When they come outside there is plenty of places for him to hide from them, but not inside.
Not as bad as your situation though. I think you should try and give him to the rescue people. That kind of dog could be a danger, it might bite someone. Do you think it might be imbreeding? We had a mini Aussie and we actually had to put him down. He was very much like you descirbe your dog. He actually almost jumped a fence once at a little old lady in a walker who was strolling past our house. He would bark violently at everyone, even frequent vistors to our house. He finally bit my daughter in the face and that was that. We tried to even give him away, explaining about his problems but he eventually had to be put down. He was just... well, crazy. The vet said that he was probably so imbred that fear had been bred into him. It was very sad.
One more thing, lol... I had a Husky growing up and she was the BEST dog ever! So loving and sweet. She would let you lay your head on her and she never had accidents in the house. I don't know if all Husky's are like that but she was the best dog ever!
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